GOD ARGUMENTS II.
7., the reception of a Pascal.
"Blaise Pascal claimed it in the 17. century, that for that question, that the man believes in a god or neither, the same result of his, than for a reception. If a god exists, so true is for the scripture, the faith assists the man to eternal salvation then his death. If but a god does not exist after all, may lose the joys of the circumscribed life with a limited number by way of his belief in God then. Yet if we think that the probability of a god's existence approaches the zero in that manner, then cleverer, if we go into the game: from a mathematical viewpoint the endless one all of his finite percentages yet always endless. So the sense obliges us to it, that we have to believe in a god.
Refutation: It would be the only reasonable thing according to the pascal logic if the man is any kind onto a promise, that the eternal one holds out hopes for happiness, would rely even religious, even from other reasons, because the hope of the success is bigger the at zero. That crux of the reception of a Pascal, that much everything, which he would like to prove, we have to presuppose it for one got from the beginning. For example if a god exists, then endless, omniscient, almighty being, and the actual author of the Bible. But beside this naturally yet several somebody else there is an opportunity - for example, that although a god exists, but the single man's behaviour interests it hardly, or - and this pascal would embarrass it rather yet - that a god exists though, but not endless being. (Source: Michael Macrone: Heureka!)
The philosophy of a Pascal is quite friendly since it is necessary to believe in a god according to his conclusion. The problem is there only, that he talks about a god's existence in conditional mood. In any case, if we accept that philosophical statement that: Everything exists from which we have knowledge, we may not talk about a god existing in conditional mood then. We give space if we do this after all the doubting, what a man standing by a god's existence may not make. The insecurity lurks there in the thoughts of a Pascal, that in that direction gives to deduce, that merely something intuition, and not, the god's knowledge controlled it, for his statement putting him down on paper.
It taking above ones into consideration Macrone-nak, was not his heavy thing when he wrote his refutation, since a Pascal posted the ball to him. Than everything else in a case, here it, the fundamental problem, that the statements miss it from the god truth accurate knowledge. (s.k.)
8., The first motive argument.
"This first road of his for it, Aquinói saint Tamás, the famous Catholic theologian and a philosopher proves a god's existence amount The-ologica title in his large-scale work. There is everything in motion in the universe. Is able to be nothing in motion without him being something different would make it move. This latter one but something else has to make it move again, and in this manner longer. This may not continue though the infinity, necessary so to get to a first mover, that nothing moves: and on this everybody god understands it.
Refutation: Everything, which there is, was the universe and will be once. Because of this god you are the part of the universe, you are him himself the universe. In any of the cases the from among two god himself would claim a mover, reaching back to the first mover shouts a god after a motive agent next in this manner. If a god does not have need onto a mover, all things do not demand a mover in the universe apparently then. Conceivable, that what is the own one was the beginning of the universe's formation worked as his first mover."
We managed to get there again in this case, that the refutation leaves that fact out of consideration, that a god is superior to it for the creation, and after he is the alpha and the omega, we do not have a reason to presuppose that he should make him move. In the book of the Revelation, we may read this in the 13. poem of the 22. chapter:
"I am the alpha and the omega, the first one and the last one, the beginning and the end."
As soon as we know it, the alpha and omega the Greek alphabet first and his last letter, the beginning and the end, but we must not fall into that trap, that let us forget that he is not for a god neither his beginning, neither his end. We have to realize it if we think through the ones read till now with common sense: after we know it about a god, how he does not have beginning and his end, then from something else there is a word. In the concern of the full creation to be understood, from all gods, begins with a god and ends. Than already so many times the arguments, and in the case of refutations, the man forgets an only thing: God not our dimension, our earth-bound mind cannot imagine his things in this manner. This state only in that direction, good, that let some screwed ways of thinking of theirs be flaunted, putting all this onto the joy of the Satan, and onto his content. Really, this most entertaining all that, while we do not buy it sincerely. We would make it better according to me if we would buy a god so sincerely, than our philosophies! The Preacher (Solomon) in his book, in the 29. poem of the 7. chapter in this manner summarized our things:
"See it only found, that the true god created the people for honest one, but they diverse plan (explanation, loophole) dream up."
9., Potentiality and the argument of necessity.
"For Aquino saint Tom argumentation three are possible in the nature for the things according to his road, that let them exist, or, that let them not exist. All things may not abstain though in his possible realm since he could be found then, that let nothing exist. The universe could never have come if this would have appeared once though onto existence. Necessary so to assume something, which is necessary by way of himself,, that his necessity not from an other reason gains it, but what is the reason of the rest of his necessity; everybody says this to a god.
Refutation: On butter why not just like this plausible the thought that he is a god - just like the universe - possible, but not necessary? Or, as soon as it in Stephen Hawking books and his questions asked with pleasure in his lectures formulate it: Why the universe wastes time on it, that let him exist altogether? Why something has to exist rather, than the for nothing? Nobody knows the answer. Perfectly possible, that for the universe - including a god in it - should not have come into existence altogether. It causes the problem that the human mind is unable in a present case to wrestle the with nothing (in the general sense of the word), the above argument falls into the competence of a concept on it afterwards in this manner, that Martin Gardner mysterious riddle on a name mentions - his object not merely unknown, but for our unknowable mind. The evolution provided a proper skull size to us the similarly intensive questions to bringing him up, does not burn though big one to it, that we can respond to them. The former argument not beside a useful god's existence, neither though against a god's existence."
Our saint Tom held in high esteem chanced upon a quite swampy area when he presupposes things like that, from which may not be his knowledge. It is not possible to assume it of it if a thing does not exist once, with what we do not know about the fact that he is possible for existing from him, we cannot name it, that we what could exist. The big one nothing, than the big sibling? We do not know about him only if he exists after all, then how we may presuppose it, how could he exist? The existence, it is possible to presuppose non-existence in connection with things like that only about what we know it, how he is. The nothing may exist? - for example: dwarf hippopotamus - possible, how exists, and if he dies out meanwhile - possible, how he does not exist. The universe could not have come if this would have appeared once though onto existence. This though the work of presupposing the absurdity that the universe is not a god, but may have come into existence automatically, and there are things, which are hidden in his possible realm before a god yet,. This from the tree iron ring philosophy, which contradicted himself, and eliminates himself in this manner. With how much clearer understandable the Bible, and the personal one experiencing. After all are, who see the hope of the eternal life in this. The refutation was not worth one to them in so much, that Tom philosophy supports the ones denying the god's existence rather. And yet moreover holy. Hmmm. (s.k.)
10., The argument referring to the miracles.
"The miracles displayed in the Bible, the similar phenomena of the modern times, cannot be explained you are the science with the laws of the nature, you would eat getting down to their causing one of the powers with taller order it is necessitated, who somebody else is not, than God. C. S. Lewis defines the miracle in that manner, than the supernatural strength colliding with the nature, and acquiesces in its truth actually, that unless something else does not exist in addition to the nature, what we could call supernatural one, miracles could not exist then.
Refutation: The miracle - it Sidney Harris his cartoon splendid like that depicts it, in him with a naturalist, who into the very centre of the rolling deluge of equations it and a miracle happens here then expression inserts it. That, effectively only a name onto all that which we are unable to explain. This it, the argument, which is the white, from patches a forming god outlines his concept, however as soon as an explanation arises, that capable one does onto the colouring of the blind spot, the phenomenon stops being a miracle. In as much it turns out about Jesus walking on water that he is altogether a mirage, or the been enthusiastic tropics pushed off slightly from his story there is a word, the phenomenon is not qualified as a miracle long. In addition to all this, how we would be able to prove the existence of a miracle once? Seems a quite unlikely undertaking to prove that he is Jesus a time paused the function of natural laws on all that, that the water, his surface tension is defined (or the gravitation, you are anything anything else). The task of the miracle, that let the believer fill it with religious devotion man. The man does not prove the miracle, but believes in him, his faith feeds on a conviction, and punctually this the manner how the believer has to relate to the religion."
Miracles
What kind of lover, caring god! We should rely on the philosophies like this now if innumerable would not have had a miracle written down in the Bible. Than I wrote it down in the case of some previous arguments already, these philosophies, bar onto thinking induce, they consist of mere assumption after all. The positive one altogether so much in them, that relatively they approach a god, to the truth. Than already so many times, I can refer to the Bible only again, what there simply, the miracles are written down understandably. Yes, those phenomena, onto which the science, neither the common wit is not top notch what to sound, only with a god can be paired.
Religious devotion
And since he is inexplicable, unprovable, the man who knows it god a minute doubts it, that he is in the background. It believer (god knowing) man any kind of religious devotion permeates it, when he encounters miracles. He these phenomena, the newer evidence of a god's existence it is affected, and than so, it is filled gladly and it is confirmed in his faith, in his conviction.
An only congregation is mentioned in the Bible: from Christ's followers, who from the Bible educated their actions, and their conduct identifies. What concerns the religions from that direction the Revelation for the 17. chapter of his book 5. his poem writes the successors: Onto his forehead a name, a riddle was written: Onto his forehead a name, a riddle was written: "Big Babilon, for the whores and the mother of the loathsomeness of the land." - Big Babilon = the collective noun of the religions which can be found on the land.
GOD II.
Well, we attained the final goal of our time travel. For me refreshing was (I hope for it you similarly feels), and really the final goal, although it is not necessary to convince me about a god's existence. The question only it, that your soul was touched from the god, beside it, for him, and the thoughts written down for you, and the end of the tunnel looms already? That intention did not drive, that let me induce anybody toward an opinion, merely thought wakening had pity these few homely words, which bar, From a god (from the Bible) originate, I was struggling along after all unbiased to be. We met a numerous critic like that, who forms a judgement on the Bible in the deficiency of knowledge, as soon as they may have read it in the course of the travel, says an opinion about related things with a god, from which he has intuitions only, was audible possibly from him from somebody, whose acquaintance saw a man like that already is who read a Bible. Unfortunate the such approach, and makes it obvious one at the same time, that the dark side makes his thing well. And, although truth is true, that Jesus gave his life because of that, that everybody may find salvation, but who considers it as this in that manner he does not have a price, it is out very much. John an evangelist wrote Jesus words down in this manner, in the 6 poems of the 14. chapter:
"I am the road, the truth and the life. Nobody secures the father, only by way of me. "
'I am the road': the religious people accept that unable statement yet, that before a god all roads, religion acceptable. Enormous mistake, which Jesus words prove,, an only road exists only.
'The truth': Jesus with his life, and it showed it with prophecies fulfilled by it, that all that, which a god promised, the source of a real hope, that is truth.
'the life': the Christians who accept Jesus ransom victim, and the fact that his act means an eternal life to a god's will is believed in, Jesus is the life for them.
Nobody secures the father,: without Jesus, he the mediatory god and between a man, without it nobody does not find salvation!
'Only by way of me': we may hear the evidence of the fact that there are not roads again, there are not all religions, there is only a road, and a congregation, He is the one that bears a God's name. Which congregation is he?
For the 2. book of the Chronicle 7. according to the 14. poem of a chapter:
"And crawls my folk, that from my name it is made to enter , is praying and looks for my face, and gives up and evil is converted from his roads: I listen to them then from the skies, I remit their sin, and I heal their land."
May say it rightfully: A god does not have a name! - really is, Károli Gáspár (hu) in translation (7 times can be found the divine name) Moses 2. book, 6. in the 3. poem of a chapter:
"For Abraham, for Isaac and Jacob I report it in that manner than God Almighty, but it I was not Jehova on my name before them known. " (in English: Yahweh)
Jehova who can be found in 6973 cases on the original coils of the Hebrew documents is a name.
I say thank you for it, that with his honoured attention, with his interest. I am asking it only already finally, reads the undermentioned letter, and let him be thinking.
The banned a god's answer.
The people ask the representatives of the religions often: Why allows that much suffering if there is a god and trouble, that hits our world, in him the many innocent men and child? The undermentioned interview gives an apt answer onto the question. The known clergyman, B. G. with his girl, A. G.-vel an interview was prepared in one of the radio programs, in which the newswoman asked him in connection with the terrible events of the latter times: How may a god have allowed one like this to happen?
He is A. G. very deep, gave an answer being evidence of acumen:
I believe it in that manner, god what happens to us saddens it though since decades very much we say it to him: be going who from our schools, from our government, and depart from our life. And he, the kind gentleman, withdrew silently. How we may expect it from a god, that his blessing and gives his protection if we require it of it in one, that let him leave us in peace? O. H. (who was murdered, his body was found recently) complained, how does not want paryer in our schools, and we said it, properly.
Somebody said it afterwards, right, if we do not read the Bible in our schools: the Bible, that says it: not kill, do not steal and like your fellow-man, than yourself. And we said it, we do not read it properly.
Afterwards dr. B. S. said it, let us not spank our children, if they behave badly because their little personality is injured, and we may demolish their self-esteem (dr. B. S. his son was suicidal). And we said it, a specialist knows it for sure, what talks about, and we said it, properly do not spank.
Somebody said that they are the teachers next and the form master right, if our children are not disciplined when they behave chaotically. And the school's leaders said that the teachers should not touch the students rather, in case he is bad with this let us provide publicity for the school, and we wish in no way, that let us be sued. And we said it, properly do not discipline.
Somebody said it next, we let our schoolgirls to have an abortion made, if want, and this does not have to be told to their parents. And we said it, let him be an abortion properly.
A wise leader said it next since the boys are boys, and it will be done anyway, give boy for our students so many condoms, as much want, and they do not have to report on this to their parents. And we said it, let them not sound properly.
Next somebody, it by way of us onto a considerable position chose said it, how it does not count what we make in the privacy if we do our work. Agreeing with them again, we said it, does not count, what somebody makes (including the president in it) in the privacy, while we have work and the economy works well.
Somebody made a step longer in this admiration continually next, and published naked children's pictures, took a step then yet, and made these available one on the internet. And we said it: properly, the right of the free proverb makes this possible one for them.
And the entertainment industry said it next, make tv- programs and films, that the violence, the immorality and the prohibited sex is advertised. And let us prepare music uptakes like that, that encourage onto the rape, onto the drug consumption, onto the murder, onto the suicide and the different satanic topics are digested. And we said it, this only entertainment, he does not have bad influence, and nobody buys it otherwise sincerely, so that, let them be going only.
We ask ourselves the question though now: why our children do not have a conscience, why a difference cannot be made good and between bad one, and why does not cause a problem for them, that let the strangers be killed, their classmates, themselves? Possibly, if he burns long and we are thinking about him firmly, we can find it out. I believe it, enough all this has many alleys to that saying, that what the man sows harvests it.
Kind god, why you did not save the little girl who was killed in the class? With respect, the concerned student.
And the answer?
He is a kind concerned student! Access is refused to me from the school. With respect: God.
Strange, what kind of is easy for the people to reject, to kick a god out, for bilgewater, to keep the message of senselessness, they are surprised next, why the world goes into the hell.
Strange, that we believe it, it what the newspapers write, but we question it, he is what the Bible says. Strange, how somebody may say it I believe in a god while he observes the Satan, he is who believes in the god likewise anyway!
Strange, that what kind of we are inclined to the judgement quickly, and how much not the judging. Strange, what kind of we send it on quickly the jokes a thousand and they brush fire they spread in the public consciousness, but the people think it over two times if we do this with the messages being about the lord, before it would be sent on.
Strange, that the immoral one, obscene, rough and vulgar things they stream freely on the global network, while he is it from a god truth public speech it is oppressed in the schools and on the workplaces. Strange, how somebody may be a Sunday flaming for Christ and invisible Christian in the weekdays.
Strange, that better interests, what the people say about me, than it, what a god says how from me! Are you thinking?
Give the message longer if you reckon that he is worth it. If not, get rid of him only then. Nobody will discover that you made this.
But, do not complain about it if you throw this meditation out, how this world is in what kind of bad leather!
